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Date: Sometime within the next 48 hours after John and Salem's fight at the bunker. Location: Salem's apartment, Red Mill. Moonphase: Between gibbous and half. Waning. ====================== Wednesday night is notable by Salem's absense. Long hours pass as the clock ticks well past the time that he usually stays out. Eventually -- well past Cat's usual bedtime -- the phone rings. Cat's asleep on the couch, curled up in a tight little ball with his hat clutched loosely in his fingers. The phone ringing pierces through his dreams, and he stirs, waking slowly, but not understanding what's going until half a dozen rings later. Then he falls off the couch in his scramble for the phone. He's lucky he doesn't step on any roaches in the dark. He drops the receiver in his haste, then mumbles, "Huh...hello?" The halfmoon's voice comes raspily through the phone connection. "Cat. Good. Did I wake you?" His voice as bleary as his eyes, the cub nods...then remembers it's a phone. "Yezzir, it's...um." A glance to the clock. "One fifteen..." "Mnh." There's a brief pause. "Go back to bed, then. The real bed. I won't be home tonight." "You...you won't?" Cat's voice pitches with worry, despite himself. "Um...are you at that Caern-place? 'Cause Miz Rina stopped by before, and that's where I told her I thought you were." There's another pause. Then Salem rasps, "No, I'm not. Pack business." Maybe the connection's bad, but he really doesn't sound all that good. "I'll be home tomorrow sometime." "Oh." Cat's quiet for a second, trailing one finger on the countertop as he peers into the kitchen, in the dark. "Okay. Um. Okay." Another pause. "Are you okay, Mi- Salem?" "I'm fine. More or less. Go back to sleep," Salem says. "I'll see you tomorrow." The connection clicks off. Cat blinks, then hangs up the phone and looks at the couch. What had that been... He doesn't finish the thought, though. Troubled, he trots into the bedroom softly and curls up on the bed, as if it was a third of the size it actually is, and does his best to sleep there. ====================== Thursday dawns, and the hours pass slowly. But it's not until several hours past noon that Cat gets to hear the sound of keys scraping in the locks. Cat's sound asleep in the bedroom, and the scraping of keys doesn't hit him as hard as the ringing phone did. The door opens, and Salem lets himself in. The halfmoon moves stiffly, gingerly, and shifts up to Glabro form as soon as the door's shut and locked behind him. His face is slashed across, scabbed lines from a Crinos claw-swipe marking his face from one side to the other; he seems to have narrowly avoided being completely blinded. A bandage covers his throat and the side of his neck. Everything else is covered by his clothes. The trenchcoat and the red flannel shirt are untouched, but the black t-shirt and black jeans are stiff with dried bloodstains that, fortunately, don't show up well against the dark cloth. Salem frowns at the darkened apartment, then flicks on the front room light. "Cat?" he rasps. Light pours in from around the door and the thin slit of it falls right across the cub's eyes. He grumbles, batting at the annoyance for a futile moment before sitting up and rubbing at his eyes. No more naps, it makes me tired, he thinks rather irrationally, before blinking at the bedroom door. Did he leave the light on, or was someone-? Salem doesn't call again. Wincing at each movement, he shrugs out of the coat and flannel shirt, then pulls the necklace -- the one with the bird charm on it; Cat's seen it plenty of times, even though the halfmoon usually keeps it tucked out of view -- and drops it on the counter. Then he heads for the bathroom, moving with the slow steps of an old man, his face set into a grimace. The massive, hair-covered Glabro arms are marked by claws as well. Gingerly, the theurge cub slips off the bed and to the door, opening it slowly and peering out. He catches a glimpse of the scarred cliath disappearing into the bathroom. "Salem?" he calls out softly, quizzically. Salem grunts, his back to the cub. "You're here. Good. Come here. You can help me with this. Teeth gritted, he lowers himself to the edge of the tub and pulls off the blood-stained t-shirt. His torso is wrapped in white gauze that's been stained the dark reddish-brown of dried blood, most of it centered over his back and side. Cat blinks again, then follows after Salem into the bathroom, staring at the blood with wide eyes. "Salem? You- oh- -wow-. Are...are you okay?" He reaches out to touch the discarded shirt gingerly. Salem's mouth twists into a grimace, the expression pulling at the scabbing wounds across his face. "Fine," he rasps. "Had a... disagreement. With John." He nods toward the sink cabinet. "A Theurge is also a healer. As well as a spirit... person. So. Gauze. Should be a roll of it in there. And a pair of small scissors." He drops the shirt into the tub. The cub doesn't move for a few moments- then, wordlessly, he opens the sink cabinet, gets the gauze, and searches for the scissors. Finally he grasps both tightly, hands shaking slightly as he eyes Salem's face. "What...what do I do?" he stammers. Moving seems to cause the Philodox pain, that much is clear; he tries not to do much of it. "Cut the bandages," Salem rasps, gesturing at a relatively unblooded portion, mostly near the front of his chest. Obediently the scissors snip through the top of the bandages, before Cat tries tearing them off. That doesn't work, so he continues to slow process of small snips, until the bandages fall away. Not quite; the wounds underneath were messy, bloody ones, and the bandages actually have to, in places, be pulled away, a task which makes the halfmoon grit his teeth and stifle small growling noises. His sides look to have been badly slashed; his back is little more than raw, torn meat. Like the slash across his face, the wounds have scabbed over and though far from healed, are further along toward that than would be on a human. Still, blood flows as some of those scabs are ripped away with the stained gauze. Cat drops the scissors, which clatter on the tile floor. "You-" he chokes out, the other hand clenching around the gauze tightly as he backs up a step, the blood in his face draining. "You-" Salem's upper lip pulls up from pointed teeth. "I'm wounded, yes. It happens." His hoarse voice has an irritated snap to it. He reaches up, face tight, and peels the bandage off his neck as well; the bitemarks there aren't nearly so bad, especially compared to the mess of his back. "Are you going to help me with is or not?" He glowers at the cub. (Apparantly not; Salem finally sends the cub off to get some things from the corner convenience store and takes care of business himself. Displeased. Later... a knock!) The halfmoon answers the door after a minute or two, keeping out of sight of the hallway. A still-battered hulk of a Glabro, the marks of John's claws still visible across his face, still in the midst of healing; he narrowly avoided being blinded completely by the other Walker. The bite marks on his neck are also still healing, and look just as ugly. All other wounds and bandages are hidden under dedicated clothing, black t-shirt and jeans. He's barefoot, and the nightingale necklace hangs out in view for once, rather than being tucked in. The apartment itself is mostly dark, with a light shining from the bedroom. Puccini's playing on the CD player -- _Madame Butterfly_. Tatt looks up from her slow scan of the hallway, eyes shrouded by a dark pair of wrap-around shades. The Galliard's got a guitar case slung across her back, and a rumpled brown bag under one arm. With a wry twist of her mouth, she doesn't wait for an invitation--she simply breezes by him. "You look like shit warmed up," she observes lightly. Salem's reply is a dour-sounding 'humf' type of noise; an eloquent indicator of his current mood. Shutting the door behind the Strider, and after resetting the locks and chain, he walks stiffly over toward the couch and sets himself gingerly down on it. "Yes. Well." His voice is a baritone rasp. "I feel about the same." He does not, she may note, sit back against the couch cushions. The Strider makes a beeline fro the kitchen, setting down the guitar case en route. She seems unusually cheerful, despite her flare of temper in the bunker. "Reap what y'sow, amigo," she points out in a low rasp, removing the contents of the bag on the kitchen counter: two large-ish tupperware cartons and an expensive-looking bottle of tequila. Furry black eyebrows rise, and then the brutish face pulls into a scowl. "What _I_ sow? I didn't even call him there to fight him." Deep-set eyes watch her steadily like those of a sullen wolf. "Naw," the Galliard agrees, shaded eyes on the task of finding a pair of glasses. "But it was bound to happen--y'all are like two magnets. Attraction, repulsion... it's all the same." Tatt lifts one inked shoulder in a shrug. "Better sooner than later, I guess. We're at fucking /war/, after all. And not with each other." Salem's scowl remains as he leans back -- a move he immediately regrets, judging by the twitch across his face, the tightening of his jaw. This halts any quick reply; instead, he closes his eyes briefly and hisses a long breath out through pointed teeth. Then, muttered, and sounding rather half-hearted, he says, "He provoked me." Tatt nods once. "He wanted you t'get yer ya-yas out," she observes lowly, pouring a shot of tequila in each glass. "Dunno if it /worked/, but... I think you both needed to blow off some steam." She seats herself on the other end of the couch, sets down the glasses, and pulls a small paper envelope from a back pocket. "..Candy that everybody wants, an' all that." Salem shifts his weight, sitting forward again to take the pressure off his mauled back. He eyes the glasses almost warily, then the Strider. The prickly temper seems to have slunk off somewhere into the back of his brain; now he just seems tired. Tired and bitter. "It isn't about Rina." Her usually intense dark-gold gaze is hidden behind the shades as she regards him, long and silent. "..So what's it about, amigo?" The Galliard's harsh voice is quiet, and she reaches out to tap a portion of dark brown powder from the envelope into each glass. Salem doesn't answer right away. His attention's focussed on the power, and he narrows his eyes slightly at Tatt. "Tell me what brand of poison you're offering me, first. And why you feel the need to give Smith _another_ reason to shit on me." (Tatt) She's no beauty, conventional or otherwise. Standing somewhere above six-foot, she moves loose and easy in mahogany-colored skin. Her apparent age shifts with her moods, but usually falls somewhere in the mid-30's. Features are a study in sharpness: all prominent angles and time-weathered planes, and her androgynous figure is no gentler. She has the rangy, raw-boned build of a hungry dog, with a loping stride to match. Oddly light amber eyes anchor her features, flashing topaz above a mouth given to startling long-toothed grins. Hair is buzzed close to her scalp, the dark regrowth short enough to reveal ghosts of spiralling antlers tattooed along her skull, leading down to a stylized antelope head at the nape of her neck. The brown canvas of her skin is etched with stories: some tattoos are faded, and others inked in fresh, raw indigo. They cover every exposed limb like milemarkers, measuring the distance she's travelled. There is no attempt to hide her obvious scars: a broad slash of long-ago healed tissue across her throat, and little more than a stub where the cartilage of her right ear should be. Scarred and calloused hands bear letters inked across the knuckles: 'HARD LUCK'. Clothing is simple and clean: well-worn jeans and a buttoned-down work shirt in dark blue, the cuffs rolled up to display full tattoo 'sleeves' on both arms. While in the city, she wears lug-soled boots. A heavy brown toolbelt is usually slung around her hips, and both forearms are bound in black medical tape from wrist to elbow. The missing shades also reveal an intricate new ink surrounding her left eye--a feathered pattern, mimicking the plumage around a falcon's eye. "Chocolate," she rasps simply, pocketing the envelope. "And we're not talkin' no Hershey's shit. This is the /real/ deal." The Galliard takes up a glass, swirls the liquid around a little. "It's an old Mayan rememdy." Tatt slides off her shades, revealing that frank topaz gaze. "I'm not askin' you to jump off no wagons, hombre. Just something to warm up the gut." Salem considers her for a moment, then grunts and picks up the other glass. "Hmnh." He swirls it around a bit, then tosses back a hefty swallow of the mixture. The drink is surprisingly smooth, with a bittersweet aftertaste that lingers and goes down thick and warm. The chocolate flavor is intense, and almost unrecognizable. Tatt echoes his motion, and downs the entire glass. She closes her eyes, murmuring something under her breath in Spanish with a satisfied smile. "Not bad, hey?" Wiping a hand across her mouth, she rises to go back to the kitchenette. Salem purses his lips, eyes squinting half-closed as he examines the taste. "Interesting," he mutters, and drains the rest of it in another gulp before setting the glass back down on the coffee table. Every motion's a careful one, mindful of torn, healing flesh. "They say chocolate's got healing properties," Tatt rasps, then grins wryly. "I think the stuff's just addictive." She pops open one of the tupperware containers, and notes, "Yer one fuckin' lucky dog, Jack. That sweet little blonde piece is cookin' for ya." Salem blinks, then furrows his brows. It's a fearsome expression in the near-man form. "Come again?" Tatt digs out a saucepan after some rummaging, and dumps the contents of the tupperware into it. As the stove heats up, the scents of hearty stew and beef begin to fill the apartment. "Drew Miller," the Galliard rasps, those two words full of a world of appreciation. Image of an astonished ex-Ronin. After a moment, Salem recovers his composure, shaking his head slightly. "Drew Miller?" he echoes, in a bemused tone. "Isn't she..." He pauses, frowns slightly, then rubs at his mouth with one meaty, thick-nailed hand. "The Get no-moon's claimed her, I thought. Chaser." The Strider shrugs lightly, obviously amused as she stirs the stew. "It don't stop her from bein' generous, I guess," she murmurs. "It's a shame a nice piece like that fell to the fuckin' Nords, though." Slight, buried bitterness in her tone. Salem remains bemused as he watches the Strider cook. "Hmnh. What makes you think she's..." He pauses to recall the phrase. "'Cooking' for me?" Tatt takes a moment to lick the spoon, then points down at the pot. "Cooking," she rasps. "This. And I believe there's a slice of chocolate raspberry cake in the other box." The Galliard sniffs, eyes the stew approvingly. There's a tremulous knock on the door, a soft tapping of reluctant knuckles. The newest Walker cub hasn't learned how to mimic shave-and-a-haircut, although he has the haircut part. Salem blinks again, and some of the puzzlement in his expression clears. "Cooking," he mutters. "Right." A hand passes across his face, rubbing lightly at his eyes. Thick fingers explore the scabbed claw-marks briefly before he lets his hand drop. He flicks a glance toward the door, at the knock. "Hmnh. Took him long enough." Tatt glances up briefly towards the door, then goes back to tending the stew. Cat clutches the single plastic grocery bag tightly, waiting for someone to let him in. Every moment that passes, strange ideas creep around his shoulders and into his head. Maybe Salem passed out like Miz Rina had, and couldn't open the door. Maybe a big spider had come through the Umbra while Salem was too weak. Maybe...a dozen scenarios go through the blond theurge's head. Salem grimaces, then pushes himself to his feet and limps toward the door to let the cub in. As with Tatt, he's careful to stay out of sight of the hallway, so the first thing Cat gets to see, most likely, is the sight of some strange tattooed woman in the kitchen, cooking stew. Sepdet simply follows Cat in without a word or explanation or a sound to announce her arrival, pocketing something as she steps across the threshold. Salem startles slightly at Sepdet's arrival, lips twitching away from pointed teeth. The tall Walker is even taller in Glabro form, with fresh claw-marks healing across his face, similarly new bite-marks around his throat, and other marks on his arms that are visible past the short sleeves of his black t-shirt. He's wearing the usual black jeans, but goes barefoot in the roach-strewn apartment, and the nightingale charm is visible hanging from the chain around his neck. And there's Tatt, in the kitchen nook, warming up some stew while _Madame Butterfly_ sings out from the CD player on the bookshelf. Shaking his head slightly, the Walker halfmoon closes the door behind the two Theurges and resets the locks, every ginger, pained motion speaking of injuries hidden under his dedicated clothing. "Sepdet-rhya," he rasps. "Welcome." Cat blinks at the sight of the woman in the kitchen, then starts as a stranger comes up beside him- but before he even has the chance to find a corner to duck into, he's being swept inside the apartment and the door is closed. With a confused and frightened glance to either side, he takes a step closer to Salem. Women at every angle. Panic. Sepdet glances up at Salem with a raised eyebrow at his condition, quickly assessing the wounds and probable origin. "Pardon," she says simply. She points her chin towards Tatt, but the gesture isn't too urgent, and the panicked-horse body language of the boy in front of her draws her attention. "I am shorter than you," she says matter-of-factly. Tatt glances up from her post at the stove, breaking into a long-toothed grin--at cub or elder, it's hard to tell. "Well, if it ain't a regular party," the dark-skinned Strider rasps bemusedly. "Pull up a seat, _mis amigos_." Her topaz gaze rakes across the blonde cub observantly before returning her attention to the simmering pot. The apartment is full of the hearty scents of beef stew. Salem eyes the pale-haired cub with an expression that's half frustration, half long-suffering. "Cat," he rasps. "Say hello to one of the foremost Theurges of the Sept. And then go put away the groceries and see if Tatt needs any help." That said, he heads back for the couch; the tequila glass is still sitting on the coffee table. Blue eyes blink again, and the expression on Cat's face mirrors Salem's suffering look. His gaze follows the Walker, almost despairingly, before he faces the 'foremost theurge'. The plastic big crinkles a bit more as he holds it more tightly. "Hi," he mumbles softly, staring at her. A heartbeat, and then the cub flees into the kitchen, coming to a second halt as he gets up-close-and-personal with Tatt. Sepdet removes the ugly knit cap and tucks it into her trenchcoat pocket, then inclines her head and favors the cub with a thin smile. "Sepdet," she states. She starts to follow him into the kitchen automatically, then halts, covering an amused grin with her hand and glancing back at Salem. Salem settles into the couch with the kind of pained stiffness usually associated with the aged, being very careful not to lean back. One hand passes over the thick mass of long black hair as his eyes meet Sepdet's; his expression is rueful. Tatt pauses in her oddly domestic task to look at the cub. Topaz eyes meet blue, and she cracks a grin as a lazy hand reaches out to ruffle the cub's blonde hair, making it stand on-end. "Hola, kid. Name's Cat? How's about you go get the chocolate cake outta the tupperware, hey?" She gestures over her shoulder with the spoon. Sepdet finally glances around the room as if memorizing its features, expression not missing a beat as she notes the bowl of cat food with its unlikely "pets". She wanders over to the coffee table and settles cross-legged on the floor, quiet gaze fixed on the pair on the far side of the kitchcen counter. But it's Salem she addresses. "I trust you didn't pick those up from Dancers?" The boy takes a step back as Tatt's hand reaches out for his head, but some urge of respect keeps him from bolting, so the Strider gets to ruffle the cropped hair after all. Not that Cat looks too happy about it. "'Kay," he mumbles sullenly, still eyeing Tatt. He toddles over to the fridge, opens it and starts unloading his groceries. Eggs. Milk. Antibacterial cream- wait, that didn't go in the fridge. Salem perches at the edge of the couch, elbows resting on his knees. He watches his packmate and his cub for a moment before glancing sidelong at Sepdet. "No," he rumbles hoarsely, giving his head a slight shake. "Bit of a... disagreement with my elder and alpha." The corners of his mouth take a downward turn. The lanky Galliard may only have one ear intact, but it's sharp nonetheless. She lifts her head to add to Salem's explanation: "/That/ is the fuckin' understatement of the year, hombre. That was more'n just some dick-waving contest." Her tone is matter-of-fact. Sepdet purses her lips, although her eyes crinkle fondly at Tatt's coarse outburst. "Resolved?" she queries neutrally. Salem flashes a sharp look over at Tatt, jaw clenching as he grits his teeth. When he does answer Sepdet, it's with a non-committal grunt. Cat holds the tube of antibacterial cream in his mouth as he puts the groceries away, then reaches for the tupperware as commanded." He starts at Tatt's exclamation, giving her another strange glance as he holds the chocolate cake. Sepdet sighs at Salem. "Well, good luck," she offers, again with that odd flat intonation that blares "Prime Directive" in sixty decibles. She finally raises her head to call over the bar. "And how's the cook?" "Resolved enough for them to look like they both had a bad date with a blender," Tatt chimes in again. "Someone woulda bled their life out in that bunker if I hadn't smacked some sense into 'em." She sounds vaguely amused, then points at Cat. "You. Plates. Now." Glancing at her elder's question, Tatt rasps, "The cook seems t'be the only sane Garou in the city, these days." Cat sighs then, still almost-glaring at the strange 'Garou' puttering around in the kitchen. The tupperware'd cake gets set on the counter as he reaches up into the shelves for plates. He gets out two, then starts fishing for silverware before remembering the extra guests. Another soft, resigned sigh, as he reaches for two more plates. Sepdet bursts into a brief cascade of laughter. "These truly are the end days," she intones, getting her breath under enough control to sound grave again. "I think that was sign number six. Or was it seven?" Salem inhales a breath, about to say something in response to Tatt, but then seems to think better of it; brutish features set into a grim, closed expression. He examines the palms of his hands instead, keeping silent. Tatt takes the saucepan off the stove and fetches four bowls, as well as another glass. Ladling out the stew, she answers cheerfully, "The world just about ended the moment I turned on this stove and started playin' housewife, anyhow." She takes a moment to savor the steam from the stew. "..Thank Gaia for kinfolk who can cook." Four plates stacked and in hand, with the silverware piled neatly on the topmost plate, Cat faces Tatt with owlish, disapproving eyes, awaiting his next orders. One of his yellow mittens is hanging by its thumb from his pocket and ready to fall. "Cat." Salem's voice rasps out in a deep, irritated growling tone. "You can remove your coat, you know." Tatt glances aside to the cub, with half a grin. "Serve out that cake, hey, _Gatito_? Biggest slice for you." The Galliard brings two bowls into the living room--one with silverware for Salem, and without for Sepdet. Sepdet takes this opportunity to do the same, visibly relaxing as she gets the strange garment off. As Tatt leans over to set the bowls down, the Seer reaches up to touch the fresh tattoo under her eye with two fingertips. "You must tell me what they all mean sometime, /Shemayit-meryt/," she says lightly. A sharp glance at Salem, one that seems to almost carry with it words- This is your doing, isn't it. Cat rests the plates next to the tupperware'd cake and removes his jacket, folding it carefully and dropping it over the counter onto one of the chairs. With a plaintive, mumbled "I don't understand," he goes about the mundane task of serving cake...and does, by the barest smidgen, give himself the largest piece. Salem accepts the bowl from Tatt with a wordless nod, but Sepdet's remark distracts him from the stew. He arches an eyebrow quizzically. Because of this, he completely misses the look Cat throws at him. Alas. Sepdet clears her throat, reaching for the bowl. "Middle Finger of Thoth," she translates, without looking at Tatt. Tatt freezes momentarily, probably due to the sharp pain of the newly-inked design. "That's m'name," she rasps with dry humor, setting the empty glass down in front of her elder before retreating to the kitchen again. Salem squints a bit at Sepdet, looking like he might smile if circumstances were somewhat different tonight. The grim expression lightens somewhat, though, as he turns his attention to the bowl of stew. "Why Thoth? I'm afraid I'm not up on my Egyptian deities." He glances toward the kitchen, keeping an eye on the cub. Cat's puzzled by how to transport four plates of cake at once; then he decides to take two at a time. His plate and what will probably be Tatt's left on the counter, he heads into the living room, very nearly bumping into Tatt. With far more luck than skill, he doesn't drop the plates, although one fork skids off and to the floor. Sepdet politely keeps her attention off the hapless cub as he scurries about. "Trickster." Tatt touches a fingertip to the cub's forehead as she passes him. "I want you t'eat it real messy, hey? Kids should enjoy themselves." She fetches the last two bowls of stew and the bottle of tequila, adding them all to the assortment on the crowded coffee table. The Galliard takes a moment to pour a shot of tequila for Sepdet, adding a bit of dark brown powder from a small envelope. "Ah," says Salem. "Of course." He concentrates on the meal, falling into the mode of silent observer as he does so. Sepdet gives Tatt an extremely wry look as the shot gets set in front of her. "Do I /want/ to know?" she mutters, picking up the bowl of stew neatly in her hands. She sniffs it over, savoring the scent. Cat looks down at the fork on the floor for a moment, then back up at Tatt ruefully. He doesn't head back into the kitchen though, just continues into the living room and towards the couch, sitting himself on the floor with plates of cake on either side. He looks at one, then the other, then gets back up to put the fork away. Hopefully someone else will remember to keep the questing roaches away. The Galliard's grin turns a little sly as she explains, "Chocolate and tequila, amiga. /True/ chocolate. It's an old, old delicacy." She follows Cat's progress with vague interest. Sepdet shoots the Galliard a suspicious smile, choosing to work on the stew for now. She tips up the bowl and laps at the broth once or twice before nibbling; if dogs had developed table manners it would probably look like this. "Mmmm." She sets the bowl down. "Have you been with us long, Cat?" she asks conversationally. Tatt takes up her own bowl, choosing to use a fork. She takes a moment of silence before digging in, keeping one ear on the conversation. Cat picks up the fork, deposits it on the counter, grabs the two other plates, and returns to the living room. Carefully, he nudges one hungry roach away from the plates with his toe. Seemingly ignoring Sepdet's question, he picks up all the plates and sets them down, carefully, on the coffee table. Out of respect he takes the slice without the fork, but then stares down at it blankly. How to eat it messily? Sepdet sets to in earnest, mercifully letting the cub off the hook. At least for a little while. Silence can be comfortable or awkard, depending on the participant, but she at least seems content to nibble quietly. At length she sets the bowl down and tries the drink. Her eyes round out a bit, but the smile she gives the Galliard is genuine enough. Salem is far from comfortable, at least physically, but any awkwardness that shows in the Glass Walker is of the body, a stifled wince whenever he shifts his weight in just the wrong way. "Mmn," he says at last, nearing the end of his portion. It's an approving noise. Tatt echoes Salem's noise, licking her lips appreciatively. "Not bad, hey?" Then, after a moment of chewing: "/I/ saw her first. Dibs." She grins toothily across the table at Salem. It's Sepdet's turn to freeze. She gives Tatt a rather peculiar glance, and addresses herself to her bowl again, lucking out the last bits. Salem eyes his packmate for a moment, then says, perfectly deadpan, "Drew? Fine. You just have to fight Chaser for her." Two fingers reach out towards his cake, the cub finally deciding to just use his hands- but at the strange comments floating about him, he glances up, querying gaze falling on Sepdet. Tatt snorts and shakes her head. "..I don't need a cook /that/ badly." Sepdet clears her throat and sets the bowl down. Seeing the cub's eyes on her, she gives an encouraging nod. "That's right. Honestly, fingers work just fine, and there's less to clean up afterwards." One corner of the halfmoon's mouth twitches upward at Tatt. Then he concentrates on cleaning out his bowl. Cat makes a small noise in the back of his throat, as if Sepdet had misread whatever question he'd been trying to get across. Fingers still hovering above his cake, he glances to Salem with a little more hope. Explain what's going on, please, I left the house and you were in pain and a mess and I come back and we're having a tea party. This time, Salem catches the cub's look. He responds with an arched brow; one would think that the pointed ears would make that particular gesture more Spocklike, but no Vulcan was ever this bulky or hairy. Tatt finishes off her bowl with clean efficiency, and lets out a rather impressive belch before tossing back a swallow of the dark liquer. She eyes the owlish cub for a long, considering moment, and then offers out the glass. "Take a gulp'a that, Gatito," she rasps. "It'll put hair on yer chest." Sepdet takes charge for a moment, voice gentle. "Cub, these sorts of disputes happen between Garou. We are rather like wolves, after all. We /need/ the best one to lead, when times turn tough, and the only way to determine who's best is to test our skills against each other. We heal almost all wounds, and heal fast. It is not like a human breaking another human's arm." The blond boy looks from Salem to Tatt, staring at the Strider's strange offer. Before he can get too worried about it, though, blue eyes flicker to Sepdet, listening to her explanation. The quiet gaze goes to Salem, looking him up and down. Finally, Cat pipes up, "You're okay then?" Tatt purses her lips silently and simply places the glass near the cub, then turns her attention to the chocolate raspberry cake, foregoing silverware. Salem sets his empty bowl down on the coffee table and, his insides warmed by the stew, almost sits back against the couch. Almost. A frowning look is turned Cat's way. "I explained about that," he says to the cub, rather sternly. "Wounds from another Garou don't heal as _quickly_, but they still heal faster than they would for a human... as long as we're in a form that can regenerate." Massive shoulders move in a brief, abortive shrug; another wince passes across his face. "In a week, it'll be gone. Unless some of it decides to scar permanently." Sepdet reaches for the cake too, poking Tatt's wrist as she snags a chunk for herself. Cat frowns too, although at what is hard to say. With a slight shrug, he looks back down at his cake. He's hungry, but it's awfully unsettling with two strange -women- around. Again, he reaches two fingers to hesitantly break off a piece. Salem rubs at the side of his neck, feeling tenderly around the bite marks. Then he grunts and reaches for his portion of the cake. He's the odd man out, and stubbornly uses a fork rather his fingers. Tatt watches her elder as she downs a bite of cake, and licks her lips. "How goes business on the other side of the bridge? Hopefully the forest packs aren't turning in on themselves." She adds the latter comment with a wry twist of her mouth. Salem very studiously does not look at Tatt. Sepdet nibbles neatly, taking time between each bite as is her custom. "Quiet now. The peace after the storm. Rebuilding, considering the future, savoring the victory as much as we dare. Some are away: Tobin is taking his pack on Totemquest, Reforged goes to gain new spirits for the caern, and Andrea asked me to look after the caern in her stead while Ouroboros goes to Western Eye's aid." She sobers. "I'm not ashamed to say we still need all of you out there as much as possible. But I know too much has been neglected here, and the things beneath the city streets still fester." Cat, less studiously, glances up between Tatt and Sepdet with guarded curiosity, his cheeks bulging slightly with half his slice in his mouth. "Not to mention the hospital," Salem notes quietly, prodding his slice of cake with his fork. Tatt nods once, polishing the last few crumbs off her plate with a finger. "I'll try to divide my time fairly, seein' as I still have a room in the farmhouse." She tilts her head towards Salem in agreement. "I think I can do more on this side, anyhow. Folks aren't as... put off by me here." Sepdet grumbles, "The Guardians are not 'put off' by you, Meryt. But walk where you will, so long as you wander back now and then." She seeks Tatt's eyes intently for a moment before looking away towards the cub. "I guard the caern. I look after a number of things. If you have any questions, feel free to ask." The foremost question in Cat's mind is something along the lines of 'what are you doing here', but he's too polite to ask it and so just gives Sepdet a jerky, wide-eyed nod, gulping down his cake. Even after his mouth is free of food, though, he doesn't speak; he just wipes at the crumbs around his mouth and takes another bite of cake. -Good- stuff. Even better with Dr. Pepper. Sepdet licks her fingers and observes to Salem, "Are you sure he's not one of ours?" She draws a line across her lips with a fingertip. "Too blonde," Tatt points out with a coyote's grin, watching the cub with a hint of fondness. Salem eyes the two Striders for a moment over his slice of cake. Again, one eyebrow lifts. "He's a Walker. No one said a Walker had to be talkative." At the mention of hair color, Cat looks up at Tatt curiously, still wary. One hand slips to his side for where his pocket (and thus his hat) should be, but the jacket is on the other side of the room. His fingers flex uselessly for a second, then he sighs softly and shifts a bit, crossing his legs indian-style. "My name's Cat Hopkins, pleased to meet you," he mumbles under his breath before taking another (and last) gigantic bite of his cake. Sepdet is quiet herself, merely observing the exchange and the grumbly half-moon out of the corner of her eye. "Hopkins," the Galliard echoes thoughtfully, leaning back on one arm. "A good name. Yer stuck with _Gatito_, though." She takes another sip of her drink. Salem mutters, "Cute," as he spears the cake with his fork again. A sharp rapping on the door interrupts whatever he was going to add to that; with a frown, the halfmoon eyes the door, then the younger Glass Walker. "Go answer that," he orders. Sepdet heaves a faint sigh, staring down at the floor and apparently collecting her thoughts before turning towards the door. Still chewing and swallowing, Cat gets to his feet and trots to the door, the shoelaces on his Keds trailing on the floor. He has to go tiptoe to get a good view through the peephole in the door- and then he's flipping open the locks, undoing the bolt. Quietly he opens the door and steps back. John won't see him right away; instead he'll be greeted with a view of Salem, Sepdet, and Tatt, and a very messy coffee table. Tatt glances aside to the other Strider, then narrows her eyes at Salem. "..How the fuck you expect him to grow a /spine/ when you treat him like the house /bitch/, hey?" Her voice is pitched at a low hiss meant for Salem's ears only. Salem shoots Tatt a sharp, narrowed look, his jaw tightening angrily. Most of what little good mood he had takes a sharp downturn, then vanishes completely when he sees who it is at the door. Then his expression goes stonily neutral. The Walker Elder stands at the door, staring blankly at the gathering for a few moments before appearing to decide upon a frown. He's in homid - wrapped up in black from neck to foot, in greatcoat and scarf. There are no wounds visible, on the Ahroun's part. "...People," he greets, before stepping inside. Sepdet exhales, watching the procedings. "Well," she says quietly. John gets a hand raised in silent greeting. Absently, she starts gathering up plates and bowls to ferry into the kitchen. Tatt looks from one Walker to the next, mutters something exasperated in Spanish, and joins Sepdet in the task of cleaning up. Cat blinks, looking from John to Salem warily, as he locks the door behind the Walker elder. "Which reminds me... I need to step up the frequency of my Spanish lessons." John moves further into the apartment, giving a nod and a murmur - "Cat," - to the cub in acknowledgement, then looks over to Salem. "Hey." The tone is neutral... with perhaps a concillatory edge? Salem's expression is unreadable, but he returns the Ahroun's greeting with a nod and a grunt that's more or less polite. "You just missed dinner," he tells John in a baritone rasp. The halfmoon's portion of dessert, only half-eaten, gets set down on the coffee table. Sepdet, fussing around in the kitchenette and making a domestic dance with her tribesmate, fails to monitor the tension in the main room for once. There's a clank as one of Salem's bowls makes a break for freedom, and she growls something at Tatt. There's a brisk and no-nonsense knock at the door, announcing yet another arrival. The blond cub's head whips around at the door, frowning as he tiptoes to peer out again. Blink. Blink. Cat looks over his shoulder at Salem balefully. "It's Miss Mac." Salem turns a wolfishly golden eye toward the cub. "Let her in then?" he suggests, just a mere touch less brusque than earlier. "Came by to see how you were doing." John looks over the table thoughtfully, and frowns at the kitchen a moment. A shrug later, and the Ahroun gestures towards the kitchen with a jerk of his thumb. "What're they doing?" he pitches towards Salem, lowly. Some awfully dry quote of the Mad Hatter's from /Alice in Wonderland/, and Cat undoes all the locks and bolts again, opening the door for the Kin with a very faint, very confused upward quirk of one corner of his mouth. "Hi Miss Mac," he says softly. Sepdet says drily from the other side of the counter, "Getting out of claw range. You two should really watch where you put those things." Rhiannon's clothing is a bit rumpled, but that's not the only indication that it's been a few hectic days on the job--her eyes have telltale dark circles, and there's that telltale hesitation to her voice. "Hey, Cat, how's it going. Salem there?" Salem shifts his weight on the couch and carefully -- very, very carefully -- leans back. He spares only the slightest glimpse at the new arrival, enough to note Rhiannon; most of his attention remains on John. "I'm fine. You?" He gestures toward the empty half of the couch. Tatt mutters something under her breath towards her elder by the kitchen sink, relieves her of one of the bowls. John rumbles darkly, "I only ever put mine where they need to be," towards the kitchen, then half-turns to catch sight of the doorway. "Fine," he murmurs to Salem. "I'll be in perfect shape in a day or two. Sides are a little sore still." He moves over towards the empty half of the couch, and - with infinite care and only a hint of reluctance - seats himself. Cat wordlessly steps out of the way, pulling the door open wider as he does so, to give Rhiannon a clearer view of the two Walker men sitting on the couch. "There's two more in the kitchen," he mumbles darkly. Salem studies John carefully. His tone perfectly neutral, he remarks, "I suppose I should be grateful you didn't take out my _other_ eye." Sepdet doesn't tease the Walker elder further. She presses a hand against Tatt's back, leaving the more nimble-fingered Strider to finish up, then slips back into the main room. "Is this a Walk meeting? Or pack? I was just checking in with my tribesmate on something." John sucks on a tooth for a while before replying, "And I guess I should be grateful you weren't thinking while fighting." He looks up to study Rhiannon thoughtfully. Apparently ignoring the Half-moon's gaze. "I was just dropping by, Rhya," he notes to Sepdet. In the kitchenette, Tatt glances back over her shoulder at the gathering and catches sight of Rhiannon with a wink and grin. She turns her attention back to the dishes, contentedly. (Somewhere around here, Cat vanishes into the back bedroom and doesn't return.) Salem watches the Ahroun a moment more, then finally turns his gaze toward the door. "Evening, Rhiannon," he rumbles. "Can I help you with something?" He doesn't move to rise from the couch. Sepdet leans against the counter, drumming a finger. "Actually, I think I am going to steal your packmate for a bit," she tells John and Salem. "Need to consult Tatt about something." Tatt looks up from washing the dishes, wiping her hands off on her jeans as she lifts an eyebrow curiously. Salem glances over toward the two Striders. "I suppose," he says, "that would be up to our alpha." Perfectly dry, perfectly deadpan. He doesn't look at John. John mutters to Sepdet, "Tribe supercedes pack." He shoots Salem a dark look, but says nothing. "Appreciate it." Sepdet raises a finger beckoning Tatt to follow, not bothering to turn around. "I'm Sepdet, by the way," she tells Rhiannon, her grave tones sufficing to give the name the weight she lacks. "Perhaps later." With that she moves towards the door. Bemused and slightly nonplussed, Tatt shoves both hands in her pockets and follows in her tiny elder's wake--but not before throwing a rather sheepish look to her packmates. "Thank you for stopping by, Tatt," Salem says to the Strider in passing, all grave courtesy. "Give Drew my thanks, if you see her?" Tatt throws up an abbreviated salute to Salem. "Sure thing, amigo." To John, she adds: "We gotta have some talks. Pack talks. You let me know when y'all are healed up." With that, she goes back to following Sepdet. "I'm fine /now/," John grumbles at the retreating Strider, but simply waves a hand idly in the air and leans back into the couch wearily. With the Striders gone, the cub vanished into the bedroom, and Rhiannon departing as quickly as she came... the apartment is quiet. Except for _Madame Butterfly_, that is, now quite audible with the lack of conversation. Salem lets his head rock backwards until it rests against the wall. He inhales a deep breath and then lets it out. Slowly. Next to him, on the couch, John just sits up and remains silent. After a while, he murmurs, "Should probably shift, too, actually." But he doesn't. "Bandages, though," he adds, in a murmur. Last time I got scraps all stuck in my flesh. Had to pick 'em out." Idle trivia. There is a knocking on the door from outside, followed by a loud voice. "Yo!" That'd be Alicia. "Open up." Salem grunts in reply, his gaze turned ceilingwards. It's a nice, plain ceiling, not quite pure white. At the knocking, he closes his eyes briefly. Just for a moment. Then he opens them, and with a jaw-tightening grimace of pain, heaves himself to his feet and stalks, stiffly and painfully, toward the door to let the Gaian in. As before, the shifted Walker keeps out of sight of the hallway. John just folds his arms, watching the doorway thoughtfully. Striding in through the door is Alicia, making tsk'n noises in her throat. "Word of the day is that you two killed each other." She says, turning about face, glancing first to Salem, then to John. "Hrnm," Salem replies, eloquently, as he shuts the door behind Alicia and sets the locks and chain. "I get killed a lot, these days," John murmurs mildly, looking up at the ceiling for a moment. He takes a breath and eases back into the couch, releasing it softly. "Moon was pretty full. Did us good to let it out." "There's thumb wrestling, video games, monopoly. Who wants it first?" Alicia says, sliding her gloves off, fingers flexing. "Was that what it was," Salem murmurs, almost too quietly to hear. He leans a hand against the wall near the door, looking at the two of them. He nods Alicia toward the Ahroun. "He's alpha." John shrugs, and eyes Alicia. "You got enough for two?" "Baby, I got enough fo' three." Alicia says as she makes her way towards John, placing her hands on his head. She begins to hum lightly in her throat, a carefree tune, concentrating and tapping into the pool inside herself. Salem watches silently, Neanderthalish face set into a neutral mask, the golden eye and pointed ears abruptly making his festures more animal than human, though without the expressive body language of more wolfish forms. After releasing John and getting a good look at him, Alicia makes her way towards Salem, hinting a grin upon her face. Reaching out, she presses her hands to his face, leaning forward to kiss him on the nose. Smooch. She once again pulls forth the magic of Gaia and begins to heal her packie, leaning her head back with a grin. John closes his eyes, breathing deeply but slowly as his packmate works her magic. He seems to relax, visibly. Then just watches blankly as she moves over to Salem. There's a hint of a smile at the little kiss. The moon's too fat, still, or too close to half. There's a flash of the old, prickly temper as Alicia takes liberties, but he refrains from jerking his head away; he doesn't even growl. Some of the tension eases back as his wounds vanish, and as soon as the Gaian's finished, he shifts back to human form. Alicia lets Salem go and nods her head, then shifts her shoulders some. "Anyone wanna talk about it?" "Easy, bigfella," John murmurs faintly, closing his eyes again and resting back in the couch. He shrugs slightly. "I provoked him. I was pretty good at it." Salem rakes his fingers back through his hair, roughly combing it back, and then tucks the nightingale charm away under his t-shirt. He gives the Ahroun a sharp glance, then looks away and leans back against the wall, arms folded. He doesn't seem to have anything to add to John's explanation, either to expound on it or refute it. "Well, lets refrain from doing stupid things like that in the future, especially on such a thick moon. Last thing we need is one of you killing each other cuz' you can't hold back. So, I got the short, sweet version of the story, what's the long one?" Alicia says, glancing between the two. "Sorry, 'lish," John murmurs, opening his eyes and looking at Alicia with a mild sympathy. "But that's between me and Jack. Not even for Pack." Salem keeps the stone-face, his jaw tight, his expression tight and closed. While he's not radiating the tension and anger of the previous night, he's not relaxed. Control. Remember that control? It's in full evidence now. Furrowing her brows some, Alicia says pointedly. "That is such bullshit. Complete bullshit." John sighs slightly, and looks off to one side. "It's an Elder thing, Alicia." He looks up at Salem, pointedly. "Gotta take care of your people." "By what? Kicking the shit outta 'em? So its an /Elder/ thing now? Do you need me to get Andrea over here an ask you what happened? If you wanna hide shit from me, fine. By all means, go off an kill each other. But thats fucked up ya'ganna keep things from the pack like that." Alicia says, growling under her breath, fingers clenching some. Salem meets John's gaze, and some of the tightness in his jaw eases up. He shifts his weight against the wall and studies the mingling of cockroaches around the plate of cat food in the corner. The corner of one of the Walker Elder's eyes twitches, and he scowls in anger. "Alicia! Enough," he barks, rising smoothly, with his usual grace. "I mean it. I'm grateful you healed us, and I'm happy to have you in the pack, but this doesn't concern you, or your ability to depend on either of us in battle. It won't be happening again." The Gaian crosses her arms over her chest as she tilts her head to one side, then rolls her shoulders in a shrug. "Fine, it doesn't concern me." She says, heading for the door. "I'm going home, good night." John sighs and barely keeps from rolling his eyes, as he grimaces. He suffices for a pained look and murmuring, "Goodnight, Alicia. Thank you for stopping by." He rubs at his temples briefly with thumb and forefinger. "I challenged Luke for Fostern by the way." Alicia says at the door, opening it up. She glances over to John, then hitches a shoulder, shrugging. "You'll probably be seeing him later. Wish me luck or something." She heads out, letting the door close gently behind her. "Oh crap," John murmurs softly, after the door closes. He looks over at Salem, his mouth twisted wryly. Salem inhales a deep breath, then lets it out, nice and slow. "Well." He pushes off the wall and pads barefoot toward the kitchen. "Like a drink?" asks the halfmoon, mildly. "I think Tatt left most of the tequila." John has to consider that one for a while, in conflict. "I don't have long... I was really hoping to come and talk, actually." He looks over towards the kitchen sharply. "Minus the bullshitting and the sniping." He rubs his temples again. "Fostern..." he mutters under his breath. Salem pauses at the counter, fingers drumming briefly against the wood. "On the fast track, obviously," he says, and then turns around, leaving the half-empty bottle alone as he faces the Ahroun. "No posturing. No... mn. No sniping. Right." He studies John's face as if attempting to memorize every twist of scar. John sucks on a tooth, and looks back over to Salem. "So." He leaves that one hanging for a while, then adds, "How're you feeling, now?" Salem considers the question, lips pursed, his tongue moving across his teeth as though tasting the flavor of it. "Don't know," he says at last. It's an honest answer, anyway. He leans back against the counter, hands curled around the edge. His eyes narrow slightly, his gaze turning intent. "How much of what you said was sincere, and how much of it was just... ammunition to make sure the fight went quickly?" His voice is kept perfectly neutral. The Ahroun narrows his eyes slightly, as he considers. Being honest... takes time. He wets his lips, chewing slightly on the upper before gradually admitting, "Quite a bit, actually. I think you're fucked up, Jack." He pauses a moment before tilting his head and adding, "Not /much/ more fucked up than me, but fucked up all the same." That tightness shows up again in the line of the halfmoon's jaw. He takes a moment to push the anger back down. He's not calm, but damned if he isn't going to fake it. Even if it's obvious that he's faking it, and that he knows it's obvious. "As it happens," he says, "I'm _not_ envious of you and Rina. I wish you both the best. I always have." John's eyebrows arch upwards slightly, and he reaches up to rub at his face, wearily. "Figures," he mutters. "Fucking figures." He looks over at Salem dully. "I said /most/ of it. Not all of it." He adds drily, "But thanks." Salem inclines his head slightly. "Welcome." Then he continues. "I've also been an Ahroun almost half my life, and a Philodox for only a bit over a year. Renouncing also doesn't make me any less of Luna's..." He stops, grimaces faintly, and tries again. "Doesn't make me feel the moon's pull any less." "I don't believe in renouncing," John notes flatly. "I've heard the stories, and I've seen one or two Garou who've done it. They're still their birth-moons at heart. All it is is wanting to play a different role in society. I don't think it's real enough to count. To /change/ anything except your attitude. Or I would've done it years ago." Salem's mouth twists sourly. He turns away to watch a cockroach climb up the wall near the refrigerator. "We'll have to agree to disagree, then," he responds, with studied neutrality. "The spirits honor it. Our society honors it, even if not all tribes look very highly on it. And I refuse to go back." He returns his gaze to the Ahroun. A stubborn bastard. But John already knew that, one presumes. Which doesn't mean that the equally stubborn Ahroun won't try to meddle... John sucks on a tooth again. "Why?" he asks, plainly. And again, the narrowed eyes, the blind one turning to a mere sliver of white within the shadowed socket. "Why'd I renounce?" John says "Yeah. But also... and more importantly, why won't you go back?" John studies Salem thoughtfully. There is something within Salem which is, always, reluctant to share things like this. It's the Shadow Lord upbringing, probably, the kind of society where to reveal weakness is to be destroyed by it. So it takes him a moment to answer, to drag the words out and lay them out on the table. "Four years ago," he says, "I was losing myself to the beast. Fighting frenzy when the moon was barely half. During full?" He grimaces. "I didn't even go _out_ on the full. For anything. And I'd _still_ wake up in blood, or worse." He pauses a moment, wiping a hand over his mouth as though trying to rid himself of a bad taste. "Before that, you had a cocky, arrogant, _stupid_ pure-bred bastard who was so busy covering his claws with the enemy's blood that he forgot that he wasn't invulnerable, or about the dagger poised at his own back. A Shadow Lord, and he forgot this." He shifts his weight slightly, folding his arms across his chest. "I Thralled on Malone once. Nearly killed a woman I _might_ have been completely happy with... drove her away, in any case. Lost ability to a battlescar from a _useless_ fight that I didn't even win, and then..." He grimaces. "And eventually ended up the patsy for a pack of Wyrm-fetid Garou who called themselves Glass Walkers." John narrows his eyes, and wrinkles his nose. "Tough break," he grunts. Then frowns slightly. "So... the renouncement... helped with the rage?" "Different focus." Salem purses his lips, considering his answer and studying a spot of air between the two of them. "Different path." He turns his gaze back to the other Walker. "I saw where I was going, as an Ahroun. I saw where that road was leading. And I didn't like it." John looks to the side. "It's not the only road for an Ahroun," he grunts. "Why not choose to live differently, but stay true to yourself?" Salem doesn't answer that right away. He closes his eyes, his head lowering as he rubs his thumb along the side of his nose. "True to myself. Mnh." John simply looks to the ceiling; staring into space while he waits for the answer. Resisting the temptation to prod. Salem finally sighs, wearily, and lets his hand drop away from his face as he folds his arms again across his chest. Behind the mask -- which isn't much of a one at the moment -- he looks as though gravity's dragging him down with the force of Jupiter's pull. "Shit," he says quietly, and then suddenly grimaces, baring his teeth in irritation. "Mother _fuck_." John looks sideways with a mild curiosity at the vehemence in the Tribesmate's curse. "Take your time?" he offers warily. Salem shakes his head. "It's not that. I..." He rubs at the back of his neck, his eye falling on the tequila bottle. He pulls his gaze away, focussing back on the other Walker. "I don't know," he says, with a note of bitter honesty in his voice. "I don't have the answers for that. Not tonight. Not right now." John doesn't look at Salem, but instead watches the ceiling again. "If you can't get the right answers now, maybe the right answers don't exist anymore," he murmurs. "Been drinking?" The last is added casually. Salem grimaces at the question, irritation worming its way through the weariness and self-doubt. "One glass of tequila with chocolate powder. Tatt's idea of an old Mayan remedy or some such thing." "Tatt's a marvel," John muses. "Let's try an easier question. Why'd you renounce?" Salem frowns slightly. Then pulls out one of the counter stools and takes a seat. "After Vegas I was... feeling disconnected." He rests an arm along the counter, not quite looking at the Ahroun. "Kept playing at anruth, going Sept to Sept. Drifting. I don't think I knew _what_ the hell I was doing, or planning." He grunts. "I almost decided to chuck the entire thing, go Ronin again. Didn't have the energy for that, though, either." He pauses, scratching absently at his jawline. "Spent the winter in Boston, which I _don't_ recommend... either for the weather or the political climate." His mouth twists into an expression of disgust. "I finally went south around the first of the year, and stayed with some tribemates at a Sept in South Carolina, and ended up having a long discussion with another Walker there. Paula Stone, Speaks-Through-Pager." One side of his mouth quirks upward at the deed-name, very briefly. He solemn again a moment later. "She told me I was hanging on too close to the ghosts of my past, who I was, and suggested that, perhaps, the last thing I needed was to follow the full moon." "Sounds... like it did the trick, maybe," John murmurs distractedly. His eyes study Salem thoughtfully. "How'd you go about doing it?" "There's a ritual," Salem says. "As I said, shifting one's auspice _is_ honored by the spirits. Otherwise there really _would_ be no point. It's very solemn and very..." He drags fingers backwards through his hair. "Ritualistic." A touch of dry humor, there, very faintly. "Pager even taught it to me, afterward." John sucks on a tooth awhile longer. "If you'd caught me two years ago, you might've signed me up for the same treatment," he murmurs. "So. ...Why Philodox?" Salem taps his fingers absent-mindedly, and silently, against the countertop. "It... seemed to fit. What I wanted. What I was... looking for." His shoulders move in a mild shrug. "And none of the other auspices quite fit. Galliard was too close to being an Ahroun. My connection to the spirit world's too poor for me to make a decent Theurge. Ragabash?" He snorts. "Can you _picture_ me as a no-moon?" "My mentor of nearly ten years was a Ragabash," John notes mildly. "He tended to be quite verbose on the versatile nature of the Auspice." He pauses. "But no. Neither questioner nor trickster, nor scout, for you." The Ahroun nods a few times. "What'd you learn from being a half-moon?" A cockroach, drawn to the lure of cake crumbs, nears Salem's hand on its way across the countertop, and the former Ronin lays his hand flat, fingers spread, watching as the insect comes within feeler-distance of his skin. "Temperance. Thought rather than action. Honor..." The roach examines the Garou's skin for a moment, then scutters slowly around his hand. "How to be a bit _less_ of a headstrong, overbearing asshole," he adds, with a wry note of self-deprecation." He cants a sidelong glance at John. "There's a _reason_ Jose called me the Devil. It wasn't just my looks." "I don't know anything about who called you what," John murmurs. "Only that you had many names, at the Hidden Walk. And few of them flattering." The Ahroun smiles slightly. "Well. Not any more, anyway." John stretches a little, getting comfortable in his couch. "Tell me Jack... it may have taken that catalyst for you to temper your own mettle... but those properties of the halfmoon are only but a few. Have you considered their place within the Warrior's own code?" A little more uncertainly, he adds, "I try to incorporate them myself... do you think I manage it?" "Well, I could take you to task for prematurely installing a sense of fatalism in cubs..." Salem inserts enough dry humor into his voice to take the challenge out of his words. He's not entirely joking, however. More seriously, he says, "In general, though, I'd say yes." John snorts faintly. "My mistake. He seemed so much like a Cliath already I forgot that only Cliaths are meant to have it explained to them just how crap our situation is - when they're already inducted." Also humour in his tone... but not entirely joking. However... he returns his focus to the answer. "Good. You think you could do it?" Salem massages his forehead with the tips of his fingers, his eyes squeezing closed in thought. "The mechanics are simple enough," he says after a pause. "I'd have to find someone who knows the ritual, or teach someone who doesn't. If I decided to do it... there's no question it could be done." His eyes open as he lifts his head, fingers again combing back through the long black hair. He regards the Ahroun somberly. "If. Because this is not a decision I'd make lightly. I'd have to think about it. And... unless Francisco decides to focus his attention again, it'll leave the tribe without an involved Philodox." "That's not what I meant," John grunts, watching Salem with an unwavering gaze. "What I /meant/, Jack... is do you think you could uphold... whatever it is you need to? Just... acknowledging yourself as an Ahroun, instead? That's what's most important. I don't give a fuck about how well you'll fight with us, or how dependable you'll be. Just forget about roles for a moment, or fitting in /here/... That's not what I'm asking. This is about..." He pauses, and rubs at his temples a moment. "Fitting in with yourself, I guess. Don't really know how to put it." "Hmnh." Salem leans back against the counter, arms folded across his chest, his head slightly lowered. The corners of his mouth are drawn downwards, pensive. "Possibly," he says eventually. His gaze is distant, fixed on a spot somewhere between the two of them, a few feet from the floor. "I think... it's easier. You recognize /why/ you have your flaws. And you... I don't know. Compensate. But you never lie. And you never have to try to be anything other than what you are. It's very... straightforward." John frowns, too. "Which doesn't mean you can't take on more roles... it's just... yeah. Freedom, I guess." "I'll..." Salem pauses to take in a breath and let it out. Inhale through the nose, exhale through the mouth, air hissing between his teeth. He meets the other's pale eyes. "I'll think about it." John shrugs slightly, and nods a few times. "Consider it, yeah. I'm not asking. Quite frankly, as long as you fight well, I'm not going to make any more fuss. But just... I guess I feel obliged to make sure you're turning out OK. In everything else. Just... as a Tribesmate." The Elder idly cracks the knuckles on one hand, and considers the glove covering it. "It'll always be up to you to decide whether you can face the responsibility of returning to your the Auspice determined for you at birth. And it'll always be your judgement that counts about whether you're ready or not. Because honestly..." The eyes flick over to Salem. "You don't let any of the rest of us know you well enough to judge for you." "You, Rina, and Tatt have managed well enough despite that," Salem points out, sardonically. "I meant to make an accurate judgement." John wrinkles his nose, and lets his head fall back for him to consider the ceiling. "Even though it's not relevant..." the Elder murmurs absently, "It'd probably be better for Francisco if he were the sole Halfmoon around here." Salem grunts. "It doesn't do him any good if he's not willing to take the opportunity offered." But then he shakes his head. "But no, it's not relevant." His brow furrows. Considering. "An experienced, powerful Garou who takes leadership where he can find it, and is formidable enough to defeat the notion of a staredown? You're a block in the path of timid young Frankie's progression, through no fault of your own." John shrugs slightly. "One might even argue that he'd need to overcome challenges like that, rather than back away... however. I think Francisco and I need to have a chat at some point soon." Salem arches a brow and, after a moment, nods once. "Haven't seen Leala much, either," he remarks, rubbing at the back of his neck. The clock on the bookshelf catches his eye, and he grimaces faintly at the time displayed on it. John looks up at the clock as well, and blinks once. Rubbing his eyes and checking it again, then comparing to his watch, John mutters, "No wonder Cat hasn't come out to interrupt. He's /sleeping/." "_Now_," Salem mutters, sourly. "Before, he was probably too intimidated." "Whatever. We'll fix it," John notes optimistically, pulling himself from the couch. "In the meantime... early nights all round. Healing, as I recall, usually tends to hit you like a sack of bricks in the stamina department for a while." Salem passes a hand across his eyes, then gets to his feet. "Yes. It does." He laces his fingers together at the back of his neck and stretches, teeth bared. "Nngh." "Oh, and one thing before I go, Jack..." John's already making his way towards the door, but pauses to turn, now. "The things I said to set you off... the point I made about you being stiff, and a coward. Did that set you off because it was the end of your tether... or did it really sting?" Salem's arms drop back to his sides. He eyes the Ahroun for a moment, almost warily, then grunts. "Little of both," he admits. John nods quietly, reaching for the door. "Good. Because that stuff, I meant." He opens the door and steps through. "Take care, Jack." The door closes. Salem grimaces, jaw tightening. "Fucker," he mutters at the closed door, then goes to set the chain and turn the bolt before turning off the light and collapsing on the couch. He even falls asleep. Eventually.